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A look at the exploitative filmmaking in Goblin Slayer’s First episode, and why it’s a problem. Not just for the people complaining, but for the show itself.
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  1. James Biggs Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I've been thinking about this a lot, because I've been thinking I should watch Shield Hero so I can dislike it for reasons I've watched, not heard/seen out of context. But then I remembered I got through the first episode of Goblin Slayer just fine & started to wander if I'm a big ol' hypocrite/creep. After watching this video I realized I didn't really notice the way the scene was shot, and I'm sure I wouldn't have been affected differently even if I did. But this gives more context as to why lots of people can't get through it. I appretiate this essay, thank you!

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  2. wormy Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I believe the entire point of the scene is so that we disregard the fact that he used a wooden mace to brutally murder the goblin Babies

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  3. ReaperBlack98769 Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    personally that scene actual is used to illastrate the actions of the goblins, its used as a introduction to the predetory nature of the goblins, some may say that it is just fan service and pretty excessive, but think about what intent in that scene, ask "why are we showing the girls 'package' as the goblins do their thing?", well i would argue it's to show their evil lust, if we cut the that part out sure it might be scarier but we don't get to feel the goblins lust. It's the lust from this type of scene that makes you hate the goblins from here on out, it shocks you into realising that the goblins are 1. sexual predetors 2. violent 3. they deserve no forgiveness. The value of the scene is like mothers basement said the "SHOCK", like in real life when you hear a child rapist your shocked, making you want to speak out against that type of behavior, well that i think is what the director intended anyway. You may disagree but personally there is value to that scene for the shock.

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  4. Parker Miller Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    If you think this is bad you should really check out Berserk lmao you'd never last

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  5. Halfhuman42 Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    For all the little edgelords in this comment section talking about Berserk, as a longtime fan of it myself I need to ask, why is it a contest? Yeah Berserk handles nearly all of its scenes of sexual violence way better but are we really gonna try and sell the manga on "Well our rape scenes are the best." really is that what you want people to know about Berserk? Because that's what most of the community knows about the story because that's all you assholes seem to talk about when you mention the show. Maybe when you bring up those scenes you can at least tell people about the lasting trauma it leaves on the characters. Guts for instance couldn't let another adult male touch him without freaking out for quite a while and had an extremely hard time letting his guard down. Now Caska after goes through the biggest character change because of the Eclipse and since then to only just recently she has been in a nonverbal state form the betrayal of Griffith in every way possible and even now that she can finally speak again her trauma is so severe that she can't even look at Guts without going into a full blown panic attack.
    Ya'll are just making it seem like this story with real consequences for these things aren't there when you say shit like, Berserk does it more often, or the WAY worse line of "Berserk has better rape scenes" People saying this shit is why so many in the anime community look at Berserk as a rape fantasy and write it off as poorly written with good art.

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  6. Marco VChB Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Dude, for Berserk, this is light content.

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  7. Shaft of the Spear Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    The first episode didn't really bother me; there are worse things out there that probably deserve more attention. You're right, the rape scene is meant for us to sympathize with the Goblin Slayer's obsessiveness and hatred for goblins, but I don't necessarily think it's a negative thing. I actually loved Goblin Slayer for something you only grazed over -Goblin Slayer IS Batman. They are the exact same character almost to a, "T." The only difference is that the Goblin Slayer doesn't pretend to be a normal person to exist in the world, he is just always himself, out loud. Batman went through a traumatic event, that made him the way he is. Bruce Wayne is not Batman. -Batman pretends to be Bruce Wayne. How Bruce Wayne is when he is Batman is actually who he is ALL THE TIME; paranoid, obsessive, apathetic, brooding, suspicious of every one and every thing, always training, always planning, always prepping -exactly how the Goblin Slayer is -driven by that traumatic experience in his life. But, Goblin Slayer's story has something that will never truly be for Batman – a feeling that there is hope for his redemption, healthy growth, and healing, which makes for good closure. Batman will never allow himself to change how he is. This makes Batman boring and tiresome, whereas the Goblin Slayer is loveable.

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  8. John Eusebio Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I liked the show, but it really bothers me how they sexuality this violence. I remember the scene where the priestess is describing her rape by goblins and she talks about how it’s horrific and made her, someone so powerful, afraid of otherwise weak creatures. So afraid that she can’t bare to face them. Which would have been GREAT if they didn’t constantly sexualize her by drawing her nipples poking through her robes and constantly showing her breasts jiggling. It makes me uncomfortable, and not in the way it should. I should be bothered by the horror of what she’s describing; not the awkward mix of horrific sexual violence and anime jiggle physics.

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  9. C W Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I'm a huge anime and fantasy fan, one of my complaints about the fantasy genre as a whole (at least prior to Game of Thrones) was literally the lack of believable violence. And I was unable to make it through episode 1 of Goblin Slayer. Thank you for helping people understand with this video why.

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  10. James Dobson Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Well put. Thanks for the mature and objective video

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  11. Anonymous_Person Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Personally, I think the way Goblin Slayer used sexual violence was perfectly reasonable in the narrative sense. It wasn't cheap, it was efficient. There are 3 major reasons the sexual violence was used in Goblin Slayer.

    1. Shock/connection to real world. : As you said, shock is one reason sexual violence was used at the beginning of the story. It uses a real world problem that people view as a real problem to grab your attention. Using something like puppies, while distasteful, wouldn't have people really connecting to the story, as that doesn't really happen in real life, that'd be a problem unique to Goblin Slayer manga. It also doesn't make sense for the story, which brings us to reason 2.

    2. Introduction to reason why goblins attack people: It doesn't make sense for Goblins to attack humans so much if puppies were the way they reproduced. If goblins reproduced by puppies, people would kill dogs so they can get rid of the goblins that attack them. While feral dogs would exist, they wouldn't be in villages, so goblins wouldn't need to attack humans to hunt dogs. Have you ever questioned why goblins attack humans? For food, sure, but they can hunt other animals. In the world of Goblin Slayer, goblins are no fools. While they have a gruesome and devilish nature, they learn. Humans retaliate with extreme force when they are attacked too often, and surviving goblins learn from the past, so they know that. They would just hunt wild animals and feral dogs, and generally leave human towns alone unless they are too starved. The primary reason goblins target specifically humans is to reproduce. Food is a bonus. They attack human villages because every time they do, their numbers grow, and they get stronger. It makes sense.

    3. Provides reasons for people to fear goblins more than other monsters: This also provides a reason why goblin slaying is important. One core aspect of Goblin Slayer is that Goblin Slayer does dirty work that no one wants to do but is absolutely necessary. If goblins didn't rape humans, they'd be just typical monsters, same as all others. They kill people, that's it. Why would Goblin Slayer kill specifically goblins? He'd probably kill any monster that attacks towns. While he would still hate goblins more than other monsters, there'd be no reason to only target goblins, as he'd have learned that other monsters do the same thing goblins did to his village. It could have been wolves and he'd be a Wolf Slayer. It could have been demons, and he'd be a Demon Slayer. But he's a Goblin Slayer, because goblins are the lowest, foulest, evil creatures in the world that constantly attack humans. They are worse than other monsters because they rape people.

    While it'd have been possible to introduce the reproduction of Goblins later in the story, it's more efficient to have the views know what they are getting into in the beginning and how evil the goblins are, instead of easing people in gradually, skirting around the issue like a plague. Those repulsed by it will be shocked and leave regardless, and it'd also be kind of hypocritical to avoid this issue when all other things such as blood and gore are fully shown.
    Goblins raping people, while distasteful, is a core part of the lore, taking it away won't make sense. If it's a part of the lore, and they keep raiding goblins bases, it makes sense they encounter it. If they are to encounter it anyways, it's better if the readers know about it from the beginning.

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  12. Michael Futrell Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    sounds like you dont understand character psychology nor do you understand character development just seems like you got scared of the first scence and ran away to talk junk in your safe space

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  13. The Sleepinmokey Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    So what I got from this video is that Assault of a character is ok only if it is a type of Assault I agree with. Cool Cool. This and Rising of the shield Hero get a bad rap because the loud minority don't like what happen in the show literally happens in the first episode. Like really have any of this people watched anime before.

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  14. Greysen V G Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I wanted to watch Goblin Slayer, it was in my queue for a while and then I was watching something on youtube and they talked about the gratuitous rape scene in episode 1. They said the story wasn't just about that rape but that it was right in your face in the first freaking episode. So I was prepared for it when starting off the show. But no, I wasn't prepared for it. I have never been hurt or assaulted, I don't know anyone who was, but even I was triggered by those scenes. Those scenes were inappropriate and tactless. It was for the people that get off watching Japanese porn videos where the girl is struggling, saying no and crying the entire time. (which I had not been warned about).
    Goblin Slayer was a good watch as long as you skip the first episode. And they should have been more violent in killing the goblins in the next few scenes.

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  15. Ameliorist Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    "Sexual violence which is a source of trauma for thousands of people is brass and tasteless"

    Well i can say thats the entire point. Goblin Slayer has PTSD from what goblins done to everyone he knows and loved. Reason why he's so violent and determined in killing all goblins down to their kids.
    How many times has mass murder been used as a plot device? No one asks people who went through a genocide if those plot point hurts their feelings. In actuality, it makes other people realize how horrendous things are and things like this happens in the real world. I for one had my parents generation go through a genocide. Every time with watch a movie involving genocide my parents get an angry reaction, not because they hate how the director included that in but simply for whats happening with the story characters and they sympathize with it.

    You can't make a story made to effect you harshly with realities by hiding the reality.

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  16. Gata Cz Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    As a rape survivor, I couldn’t handle the first episode. The sexualizing of the scene was just too much. I love DND, and I wanted to like this show. I thought the rape wasn’t going to be as bad as people say it was. But it was for me. I waited a while, and skipped the first episode, and I had a much better time. The show isnt bad.

    An important writing tip: if you can use something other an rape, DONT USE RAPE

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  17. DGPrepper Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I had no problem with any of the plot points in the first episode. But like you, I had a problem with the graphic portrayal of those plot points. Fan service is something I can ignore – and even sometimes enjoy. The horror of that scene makes it NOT so much fan service as graphic, exploitative, unnecessary and trauma-inducing. Several people made some very bad decisions there.

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  18. The Blue Phoenix: Captain Gamer Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Goblin Slayer: *is killing goblin children*
    MB:here have a bunny

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  19. The Blue Phoenix: Captain Gamer Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I can't believe this isn't age restricted lol

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  20. הודיה בר יוסף Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I highly disagree.
    we had a full episode to connect to the characters, what made it so horrific was how we saw fighter girl becoming a husk of herself after seeing what a brave person she was. and the way the goblins ripped her clothes didn't seem sexual to me, it looked horrific beacuse of her expression, since i felt they "fixed" parts of rape hentai in the sense of showing the same shots used in hentai, but since we know fighter and since we can see the true horror and her bravry of saving the rest of her friends by sacrifising herself- this is what TRULY made it so horrific. they added it to fix in our mind how those same secens that are use as pleasrable in hentai are so fucking disgusting and horrific in real life. beacuse we are now connected to fighter we feel as though the goblins expose her by purpose, to shame the warrior, to show as much as possible in order to take the thing that was who she was for us till than- her bravery.

    the "butt exposore scene" as you called it was made exactly the oppisete of hentai, when in hentai we mostly see the body of the character and only than the face, (beacuse, again , film making, you need to focus on what is important to your genere) in this secene it was THE EXACT OPPISETE, first looking through fighters horror and face made us view the rest of the secene through her eyes, through the sheer horror she went through. the harsh reality is replacing what is "fan service" in anime as we see her horror overshadows her boobs in one secene, where in other anime and hentai the focuse would be on her boobs aquashed by the ground in here we see HER FACE in the center, we see DIRT (which is obvieasly sickening and not pleaserable) on her injured horrifid face. we see the tears as she looks RIGHT AT US for help as if she knows we are there and we are unable to help. in contrast to hentai, where her eyes would usoally have far less of a SHARP GLARE at the viewer, as if she asks us:
    "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT?"

    it was the vary definition of an ANTI-hentai.

    I don't think it ment to "take out normies" it was as much as an anti rape hentai as (you know the numberes… and the poor girl with the glasses and brids, we all know her) was an anti-Hentai manga.

    those were subtle detailes but they make the secene as great horror as it was beacuse it throws you off, asking a valid quastion about real life. but I can understand your confusion, since it's hard not to see the subtle detailes and I do wish the secene was more focused on the injuries and dirt aspects, beacuse those things that you would never see in hentai is what makes in more connected to the crual reality of the act and less connected to fiction.

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  21. Cell Games Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I think the only aspect I enjoyed about this anime was the violence minus the sexual assualt. Everything else about the first season was mediocre. I hope season two would be better

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  22. R134eS2o Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    The real fucked up part was it didn't even get worse as it went on. You wanna put a rape scene in episode one? Then I better see some more fucked up shit every fucking episode if you wanna set the fucking bar that high not back track and never have another bad thing happen for the rest of the season. You wanna Game of Thrones this shit you better step it the fuck up. You ain't no Elfen Lied. Better get that target audience cause this shit ain't getting fucks.

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  23. R134eS2o Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    You've been watching too much hentai man… anyone who watches normal shonen or slice of life… cant take this shit. Even I can tell that. I get where they're coming from. Seen worse in anime and worse scenes but it was expected from the anime and usually not in the first episode and if it is the rest of it shows you worse than you can imagine.

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  24. R134eS2o Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaaa maybe breaking down the scene wasn't the best idea ever…… Fuck dude this is worse than the actual scene itself.. Fuck man.

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  25. R134eS2o Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Rape is real.. Rape happens. We can't pretend it doesn't. It's existed throughout our history and will continue to exist. We can't stop it. But we can limit on how much it happens and the places where it won't happen. By raising awareness, by showing and saying it is NOT okay we will continue to remind ourselves for future generations and current that this act of sexual assault or any act of sexual assault is not okay. I want it to end. I want it to never happen. But it does happen. This is humanity. This is human nature. This is reality and we have to take reality as it is, not as we want it to be.

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  26. EdScarlet Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Not gonna lie, the main reason I started watching Goblin Slayer was because of the Abridged parody and the hilarious way GS portrayed that first episode.
    I came for the rage and beans, stayed for wholesome Priestess.

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  27. TheGuruAxle Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    More virtue. Signaling it’s not ok cuss I can’t handle that kind of shock in my entertainment end of story and I think the scene served it propose because your talking about it aren’t you

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  28. DREAMSCAPE CINEMA Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    It's crazy that so many people lost their shit about this video essay, it's actually insane to me. It's fine to disagree with people, I've done my fair share of that. There are plenty of opinions that MB has that I just don't agree with, but the amount of people that got all hot and bothered by this video is shocking to me, seriously for fucks sake, grow up and be okay with other people having opinions that you disagree with.
    Although this is the internet, I suppose I'm just speaking to a shit stained brick wall by attempting to appeal to the "logical" side of people who have a problem with differing opinions.

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  29. Alsina Kiria Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    My best friend is a huge DND fan. I would love to show her this show, but she suffered from sexual assault at the hands her (now ex) bf. She believed that she had to allow it and that he had the right to disregard her "no" because she was raised in a house where women never say no to their man.

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  30. FriendofFantasy Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I was talking to my friend about Demon Slayer. Building up Demon Slayer and how it was a good show with great funny moments. My friend, he went home and couldn't remember the name and watched the first episode of Goblin Slayer. I felt so bad.

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  31. Fury Sniper Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Rape was there in the first episode to make us watchers hate goblins and wanting them to die in the most painful way it's was there to justify killing them the only thing the studio did is they just added more sexual shots camera angles and more horror to make the scene more spicy that's all.

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  32. BlargenMcFace Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    The site I read Goblin Slayer on framed it as a light-hearted fantasy adventure. They used cute cover art and it was even tagged as 'ecchi', so I was thinking oh boy, here's another fantasy harem fanservice thing. I was very unprepared for that first chapter.

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  33. Prohibited fetishes Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Idk why everyone gets triggered. its an anime. It just shows that goblins are rapy, nothing less nothing more. a made up Fantasy shouldn't be compared to real life. cus guess what? it's not

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  34. TheKnightMonkey 1 Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    "The way it sexualizes…." shows a kitty on a field of flowers

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  35. Julia G Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    wow what an incelfest in the comments. Gross, just like the show.

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  36. Dominik Tokar Tokarski Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Why the rape scene needs to be justified? Just before that people are brutally killed and I don't hear people talking about that. I don't want to quantify tragedy but this is the reality.

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  37. tashua wheeler Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Goblin's are tugs that the big cops don't care about but the little people do so we have Goblin Slayer for the job

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  38. David Donahoe Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I agree it could have been presented much better. It could have been hinted at instead of shown. But it does help flesh out Sword Maiden and Priestess's trauma later on.

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  39. Sunshine Hall Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Okay 1. Goblin Slayer isn't meant to be some in depth though provoking masterpiece that gives reason who why goblins rape other than its in their nature or why we should care about the people being raped. In the real world, we are faced with similar shit on the news and everywhere else, just not in video format with actions being displayed. And 2. The females who were raped weren't meant to be someone you care about or anything so fancy. They weren't meant to be special. Because this isn't a special occurrence. Irl and in this show rape doesn't just happen to special people. It happens to everyone regardless of how pretty, how old, how busty, so on. It just happens. The special ones are the ones who get away. Quit being extra.

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  40. wowowee69 Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    If you watch hentai and got offended by the first episode, kinda makes you a hypocrite.

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  41. Sock Monkey Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I havent watched this show because of the rape scene. After listening to this video i couldnt get through the entire explanation. I really dont think i will ever watch this show.

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  42. W4nnabe Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    If you think that rape scene is bad wait till you see Goosh Goosh. 😷🤢

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  43. RozikaK Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    “I am disguisted”

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  44. Zhong Ping Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    it wasn't at all fan service, it was horror. And it set the tone for some visceral tension in episodes down the line. I think the first episode is vital to setting up the stakes in this series

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  45. Zhong Ping Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you here. There is real horror to be found in sexual violence. And while it shouldn't be used lightly, nor lingered upon, GS displayed it just enough to get the point across that these were real monsters that cause a trauma unlike the monsters we've seen in anime we've seen before. It's an important plot point that hammers home the fixation that goblin slayer has on slaying goblins and without the intense and visceral horror of the first episode, goblin slayer becomes schlocky, one dimensional, amd cartoonish. The disturbing nature of this very short and powerful moment highlights how serious these creatures really are that characters in world dont even treat as serious. This is one of the few cases where such trauma is warranted in my opinion and I find your moral grand standing to be a bit pompus.

    In short, is it repugnant? Yes. Is that important to the tension and story of the entire series and completely justified? Yes.

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  46. asgloki Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    If you dont like it then dont watch it, i think its a great show.

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  47. Zoubek Ukrutný Posted on June 15, 2020 at 5:48 pm

    Fine, fine u convinced me. Ima watch it.

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